Point Clark Stormwater Servicing Master Plan

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The Township of Huron-Kinloss is initiating a Municipal Class Environmental Assessment to develop a Stormwater Servicing Master Plan for the area between Concssion2 and Concession 4 in Point Clark.(see map)

The purpose of EA is to:

  • Take inventory and evaluate existing drainage infrastructure
  • Investigate the most cost effective and efficient manner to improve drainage infrastructure

When complete, the Master Plan will recommend a service strategy to be implemented in phases determined by need and to accommodate future growth.

Please note that this project is to direct proper road drainage. It is not a municipal drain project and may not solve all drainage problems of private property. Any recommended construction will be done through capital funds. We do not anticipate any direct cost to individual property owners at this time.

Your involvement is welcome! Public input on planning and design will be accepted until June 9, 2023. See contact information in attached document. Questions can be sent via email or phone. A public meeting will be held in late summer.

The Township of Huron-Kinloss is initiating a Municipal Class Environmental Assessment to develop a Stormwater Servicing Master Plan for the area between Concssion2 and Concession 4 in Point Clark.(see map)

The purpose of EA is to:

  • Take inventory and evaluate existing drainage infrastructure
  • Investigate the most cost effective and efficient manner to improve drainage infrastructure

When complete, the Master Plan will recommend a service strategy to be implemented in phases determined by need and to accommodate future growth.

Please note that this project is to direct proper road drainage. It is not a municipal drain project and may not solve all drainage problems of private property. Any recommended construction will be done through capital funds. We do not anticipate any direct cost to individual property owners at this time.

Your involvement is welcome! Public input on planning and design will be accepted until June 9, 2023. See contact information in attached document. Questions can be sent via email or phone. A public meeting will be held in late summer.

Questions & Answers

Please contact us with any questions. You may type in your question here or call us at 519-395-3735 x 133. If you have formal input for the planning and design of the study please contact Kelly Vader at B.M. Ross and Associates. Your input is valued. 

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  • Share I have a property adjacent to Clark Creek - it's been in the family since 1945. Over the years, we have observed a significant increase in the water flow through Clark Creek as storm water is directed that way, and significant erosion of our bank. We have spent thousands of dollars shoring up the bank to protect our property from further erosion. What is this study considering to avoid further erosion of the creek banks! on Facebook Share I have a property adjacent to Clark Creek - it's been in the family since 1945. Over the years, we have observed a significant increase in the water flow through Clark Creek as storm water is directed that way, and significant erosion of our bank. We have spent thousands of dollars shoring up the bank to protect our property from further erosion. What is this study considering to avoid further erosion of the creek banks! on Twitter Share I have a property adjacent to Clark Creek - it's been in the family since 1945. Over the years, we have observed a significant increase in the water flow through Clark Creek as storm water is directed that way, and significant erosion of our bank. We have spent thousands of dollars shoring up the bank to protect our property from further erosion. What is this study considering to avoid further erosion of the creek banks! on Linkedin Email I have a property adjacent to Clark Creek - it's been in the family since 1945. Over the years, we have observed a significant increase in the water flow through Clark Creek as storm water is directed that way, and significant erosion of our bank. We have spent thousands of dollars shoring up the bank to protect our property from further erosion. What is this study considering to avoid further erosion of the creek banks! link

    I have a property adjacent to Clark Creek - it's been in the family since 1945. Over the years, we have observed a significant increase in the water flow through Clark Creek as storm water is directed that way, and significant erosion of our bank. We have spent thousands of dollars shoring up the bank to protect our property from further erosion. What is this study considering to avoid further erosion of the creek banks!

    Tapeach asked 4 months ago

    The purpose of this study is to investigate road drainage solutions between Clark Creek and the Pine River in Point Clark.  Shoreline restoration along Clark Creek is not within the scope of this project.  If you would like Township assistance with this issue please contact the Township Office at (519) 395-3735 or send us an email at info@huronkinloss.com.

  • Share 1) Who are the contractors involved in this study? Please describe their roles and responsibilities? 2) Years ago we had drainage ditches and empty lots with trees that allowed water and ag fertilizers to dissipate instead of going into the lake directly. Do you plan to have holding ponds to contain agricultural run offs? OR do you plan to repeat the same mistake by having run off run directly into the Lake and increasing algae blooms like you did in south point clark. 3) Last time you did this, you closed several small creek run offs namely the one at Pottawami and Huron rd. believing your storm run off solution would address this run off. By closing this off, you flooded the neighborhood and you had to re-open the creek. Did HK and your engineers learning anything? 4) When we put in the road, curbs, water towers, water, we had to pay close to 16K over the years on this on property taxes, how do you plan to fund this? Will this come out of the capital budget or do you expect taxpayers to pay for this by issuing municipal bonds. Will taxpayers be treated fairly or do you expect the lakeshore to pay for everything again? 4) Do you have proof that this improves water quality or is this just a make work project. The evidence I see in South Point Clark says otherwise. on Facebook Share 1) Who are the contractors involved in this study? Please describe their roles and responsibilities? 2) Years ago we had drainage ditches and empty lots with trees that allowed water and ag fertilizers to dissipate instead of going into the lake directly. Do you plan to have holding ponds to contain agricultural run offs? OR do you plan to repeat the same mistake by having run off run directly into the Lake and increasing algae blooms like you did in south point clark. 3) Last time you did this, you closed several small creek run offs namely the one at Pottawami and Huron rd. believing your storm run off solution would address this run off. By closing this off, you flooded the neighborhood and you had to re-open the creek. Did HK and your engineers learning anything? 4) When we put in the road, curbs, water towers, water, we had to pay close to 16K over the years on this on property taxes, how do you plan to fund this? Will this come out of the capital budget or do you expect taxpayers to pay for this by issuing municipal bonds. Will taxpayers be treated fairly or do you expect the lakeshore to pay for everything again? 4) Do you have proof that this improves water quality or is this just a make work project. The evidence I see in South Point Clark says otherwise. on Twitter Share 1) Who are the contractors involved in this study? Please describe their roles and responsibilities? 2) Years ago we had drainage ditches and empty lots with trees that allowed water and ag fertilizers to dissipate instead of going into the lake directly. Do you plan to have holding ponds to contain agricultural run offs? OR do you plan to repeat the same mistake by having run off run directly into the Lake and increasing algae blooms like you did in south point clark. 3) Last time you did this, you closed several small creek run offs namely the one at Pottawami and Huron rd. believing your storm run off solution would address this run off. By closing this off, you flooded the neighborhood and you had to re-open the creek. Did HK and your engineers learning anything? 4) When we put in the road, curbs, water towers, water, we had to pay close to 16K over the years on this on property taxes, how do you plan to fund this? Will this come out of the capital budget or do you expect taxpayers to pay for this by issuing municipal bonds. Will taxpayers be treated fairly or do you expect the lakeshore to pay for everything again? 4) Do you have proof that this improves water quality or is this just a make work project. The evidence I see in South Point Clark says otherwise. on Linkedin Email 1) Who are the contractors involved in this study? Please describe their roles and responsibilities? 2) Years ago we had drainage ditches and empty lots with trees that allowed water and ag fertilizers to dissipate instead of going into the lake directly. Do you plan to have holding ponds to contain agricultural run offs? OR do you plan to repeat the same mistake by having run off run directly into the Lake and increasing algae blooms like you did in south point clark. 3) Last time you did this, you closed several small creek run offs namely the one at Pottawami and Huron rd. believing your storm run off solution would address this run off. By closing this off, you flooded the neighborhood and you had to re-open the creek. Did HK and your engineers learning anything? 4) When we put in the road, curbs, water towers, water, we had to pay close to 16K over the years on this on property taxes, how do you plan to fund this? Will this come out of the capital budget or do you expect taxpayers to pay for this by issuing municipal bonds. Will taxpayers be treated fairly or do you expect the lakeshore to pay for everything again? 4) Do you have proof that this improves water quality or is this just a make work project. The evidence I see in South Point Clark says otherwise. link

    1) Who are the contractors involved in this study? Please describe their roles and responsibilities? 2) Years ago we had drainage ditches and empty lots with trees that allowed water and ag fertilizers to dissipate instead of going into the lake directly. Do you plan to have holding ponds to contain agricultural run offs? OR do you plan to repeat the same mistake by having run off run directly into the Lake and increasing algae blooms like you did in south point clark. 3) Last time you did this, you closed several small creek run offs namely the one at Pottawami and Huron rd. believing your storm run off solution would address this run off. By closing this off, you flooded the neighborhood and you had to re-open the creek. Did HK and your engineers learning anything? 4) When we put in the road, curbs, water towers, water, we had to pay close to 16K over the years on this on property taxes, how do you plan to fund this? Will this come out of the capital budget or do you expect taxpayers to pay for this by issuing municipal bonds. Will taxpayers be treated fairly or do you expect the lakeshore to pay for everything again? 4) Do you have proof that this improves water quality or is this just a make work project. The evidence I see in South Point Clark says otherwise.

    mjjbayer asked 6 months ago

    1) We don't have any contractors involved in the project, however, we do have a consulting engineer, B.M. Ross and Associates involved with this study.  They are assisting Township staff with the process of engaging with the public, and various review agencies and will be responsible for the design and the evaluation of various drainage options based on input from Township staff, Council, and the public.

    2) We are looking at the possibility of incorporating stormwater management facilities that will help to reduce the impact of peak flows during storm events and provide enhanced quality control.

    3) We are always evaluating projects that have been done in the past, but each project is different and we have to use all the information we have available to make the best possible decisions.

    4) This study is a capital project that is funded by all ratepayers in Huron-Kinloss.  How drainage construction projects are funded will be ultimately a Council decision, however, it is our intention to fund these projects as other Township storm sewer projects, which are funded by all ratepayers of the Township.

    5) Any drainage construction project will require permits from the Saugeen Valley Conservation Authority and the Department of Fisheries and Oceans, which will require that quality control measures be included.  

  • Share 1)What is the quality of water going into the lake and the potential disruption to fish population not to mention swimming by having a storm drain go directly into Lake Huron. Rivers and creeks provide a filtering system to keep sediments out of the lake water. 2) Where exactly will the storm drainage outlet be located on Victoria road. 3) Tax implications for property owners 4) Paving and putting curbs on Victoria road appears to be in scope with this presentation. Currently speeding is an issue. on victoria This will make it far worse. Paving just adds more runoff into the lake on Facebook Share 1)What is the quality of water going into the lake and the potential disruption to fish population not to mention swimming by having a storm drain go directly into Lake Huron. Rivers and creeks provide a filtering system to keep sediments out of the lake water. 2) Where exactly will the storm drainage outlet be located on Victoria road. 3) Tax implications for property owners 4) Paving and putting curbs on Victoria road appears to be in scope with this presentation. Currently speeding is an issue. on victoria This will make it far worse. Paving just adds more runoff into the lake on Twitter Share 1)What is the quality of water going into the lake and the potential disruption to fish population not to mention swimming by having a storm drain go directly into Lake Huron. Rivers and creeks provide a filtering system to keep sediments out of the lake water. 2) Where exactly will the storm drainage outlet be located on Victoria road. 3) Tax implications for property owners 4) Paving and putting curbs on Victoria road appears to be in scope with this presentation. Currently speeding is an issue. on victoria This will make it far worse. Paving just adds more runoff into the lake on Linkedin Email 1)What is the quality of water going into the lake and the potential disruption to fish population not to mention swimming by having a storm drain go directly into Lake Huron. Rivers and creeks provide a filtering system to keep sediments out of the lake water. 2) Where exactly will the storm drainage outlet be located on Victoria road. 3) Tax implications for property owners 4) Paving and putting curbs on Victoria road appears to be in scope with this presentation. Currently speeding is an issue. on victoria This will make it far worse. Paving just adds more runoff into the lake link

    1)What is the quality of water going into the lake and the potential disruption to fish population not to mention swimming by having a storm drain go directly into Lake Huron. Rivers and creeks provide a filtering system to keep sediments out of the lake water. 2) Where exactly will the storm drainage outlet be located on Victoria road. 3) Tax implications for property owners 4) Paving and putting curbs on Victoria road appears to be in scope with this presentation. Currently speeding is an issue. on victoria This will make it far worse. Paving just adds more runoff into the lake

    paallen360 asked 6 months ago

    1) There would be little difference in the quality of water being discharged to an outlet at Lake Huron versus an outlet in the Pine River.  The outlet location in the Pine River would be very close to the mouth of the river at Lake Huron so any stormwater discharges would enter the lake soon after entering the river.  We anticipate that approvals would be required for either outlet location from the Saugeen Valley Conservation Authority, the Federal Department of Fisheries and Oceans and the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry.  Potential water quality impacts, impacts to fish populations and other potential concerns would need to be addressed as part of the approval process.

    2) At this stage in the Master Plan process, the alternatives being presented are still very conceptual.  No specific outlet locations have been identified.  Following the public meeting and the receipt of input from residents and review agencies, more detailed design work will be completed which will provide more information to residents prior to the next public information meeting.

    3) Property tax rates are set by Council during budget deliberations each year.  Whether or not the recommended drainage projects are included in future budgets and what impact that has on the tax rate, is ultimately a Council decision.

    4) The presentation that was made available on Oct. 25th, included a standard road cross-section that is used when Township roads are reconstructed and when roads are constructed for new developments along the Lakeshore.  While this is the preferred design for most streets, there are several roads that this design will not work for because the road allowance is not wide enough,  Victoria Road is one of these roads, but there are others as well.  

    Based on what information we have at this point, we don't see any reason to pave Victoria Road without overwhelming support from the community.

  • Share Is this to allow for more residential development in the mapped area lakeside of LakeRange? on Facebook Share Is this to allow for more residential development in the mapped area lakeside of LakeRange? on Twitter Share Is this to allow for more residential development in the mapped area lakeside of LakeRange? on Linkedin Email Is this to allow for more residential development in the mapped area lakeside of LakeRange? link

    Is this to allow for more residential development in the mapped area lakeside of LakeRange?

    B asked 9 months ago

    The purpose of this project is to provide adequate drainage for existing Township roadways.  Any future developments will be required to submit a stormwater management plan which may or may not use the Township drainage system.

  • Share The lack of storm drainage at Lake Range and St Arnaud (particulaly at the farm on the east side) caused massive flooding on our property, washing out our driveway and sending water into our crawlspace. Question: what are you doing to address drainage/proper ditch on the east side of Lake Range at St Arnaud area. We've heard from the previous owners that there was a similar, though less severe, incident in 2019. There is also no culvert or ditch on the north side of St Arnaud from Lake Range, although there is one further west down the road. Even if we were to install a culvert on the St Arnaud side of our property, it has no where to be directed. Question: what is the ability of the current culvert further west on St Arnaud? We've heard from other residents that the current drains are blocked which is making the issue worse. Thank you! on Facebook Share The lack of storm drainage at Lake Range and St Arnaud (particulaly at the farm on the east side) caused massive flooding on our property, washing out our driveway and sending water into our crawlspace. Question: what are you doing to address drainage/proper ditch on the east side of Lake Range at St Arnaud area. We've heard from the previous owners that there was a similar, though less severe, incident in 2019. There is also no culvert or ditch on the north side of St Arnaud from Lake Range, although there is one further west down the road. Even if we were to install a culvert on the St Arnaud side of our property, it has no where to be directed. Question: what is the ability of the current culvert further west on St Arnaud? We've heard from other residents that the current drains are blocked which is making the issue worse. Thank you! on Twitter Share The lack of storm drainage at Lake Range and St Arnaud (particulaly at the farm on the east side) caused massive flooding on our property, washing out our driveway and sending water into our crawlspace. Question: what are you doing to address drainage/proper ditch on the east side of Lake Range at St Arnaud area. We've heard from the previous owners that there was a similar, though less severe, incident in 2019. There is also no culvert or ditch on the north side of St Arnaud from Lake Range, although there is one further west down the road. Even if we were to install a culvert on the St Arnaud side of our property, it has no where to be directed. Question: what is the ability of the current culvert further west on St Arnaud? We've heard from other residents that the current drains are blocked which is making the issue worse. Thank you! on Linkedin Email The lack of storm drainage at Lake Range and St Arnaud (particulaly at the farm on the east side) caused massive flooding on our property, washing out our driveway and sending water into our crawlspace. Question: what are you doing to address drainage/proper ditch on the east side of Lake Range at St Arnaud area. We've heard from the previous owners that there was a similar, though less severe, incident in 2019. There is also no culvert or ditch on the north side of St Arnaud from Lake Range, although there is one further west down the road. Even if we were to install a culvert on the St Arnaud side of our property, it has no where to be directed. Question: what is the ability of the current culvert further west on St Arnaud? We've heard from other residents that the current drains are blocked which is making the issue worse. Thank you! link

    The lack of storm drainage at Lake Range and St Arnaud (particulaly at the farm on the east side) caused massive flooding on our property, washing out our driveway and sending water into our crawlspace. Question: what are you doing to address drainage/proper ditch on the east side of Lake Range at St Arnaud area. We've heard from the previous owners that there was a similar, though less severe, incident in 2019. There is also no culvert or ditch on the north side of St Arnaud from Lake Range, although there is one further west down the road. Even if we were to install a culvert on the St Arnaud side of our property, it has no where to be directed. Question: what is the ability of the current culvert further west on St Arnaud? We've heard from other residents that the current drains are blocked which is making the issue worse. Thank you!

    Stephanie asked 11 months ago

    The Township is aware of the drainage issues in the St. Arnaud and Lake Range Dr. area and we will be looking at solutions to prevent these flooding incidents from occurring in the future.  The drains in the area are currently functioning as they were intended, however, they are no longer able to accommodate the severe storms we are now receiving, such as the events of May 2019 and April 2023.

  • Share Are the zoned EP and OS areas in the General Location Plan protected from this possible construction as they are essential in holding, draining and preventing flooding as they act as "sponges" to adsorb/hold excess rainwater? They are included in the Area Map and this is a concern. on Facebook Share Are the zoned EP and OS areas in the General Location Plan protected from this possible construction as they are essential in holding, draining and preventing flooding as they act as "sponges" to adsorb/hold excess rainwater? They are included in the Area Map and this is a concern. on Twitter Share Are the zoned EP and OS areas in the General Location Plan protected from this possible construction as they are essential in holding, draining and preventing flooding as they act as "sponges" to adsorb/hold excess rainwater? They are included in the Area Map and this is a concern. on Linkedin Email Are the zoned EP and OS areas in the General Location Plan protected from this possible construction as they are essential in holding, draining and preventing flooding as they act as "sponges" to adsorb/hold excess rainwater? They are included in the Area Map and this is a concern. link

    Are the zoned EP and OS areas in the General Location Plan protected from this possible construction as they are essential in holding, draining and preventing flooding as they act as "sponges" to adsorb/hold excess rainwater? They are included in the Area Map and this is a concern.

    mclellan asked 11 months ago

    We are not anticipating negative impacts to natural features that are currently zoned EP or OS as we expect that most of the upgrades will occur within existing municipal road allowances.  However, drainage features within the community that are zoned EP, may need to be upgraded as part of the project. Once potential projects have been identified for implementation through the Master Plan an evaluation process will be undertaken to consider the potential impacts associated with implementation of the projects on various aspects of the environment.  This includes the natural, social, cultural, economic and technical environments associated with the study area and would include looking at potential impacts to wetlands and other natural features. If potential impacts are identified mitigation measures would be identified to minimize the potential impacts.  Projects with significant impacts identified that cannot be minimized through appropriate mitigation measures, would not be recommended for implementation.

  • Share What are you planning to do about protecting the wetlands and the watershed of Clark Creek? Are you planning to run with 100 year storm projections or will you plan for more intense precipitation events that are predicted with climate change? on Facebook Share What are you planning to do about protecting the wetlands and the watershed of Clark Creek? Are you planning to run with 100 year storm projections or will you plan for more intense precipitation events that are predicted with climate change? on Twitter Share What are you planning to do about protecting the wetlands and the watershed of Clark Creek? Are you planning to run with 100 year storm projections or will you plan for more intense precipitation events that are predicted with climate change? on Linkedin Email What are you planning to do about protecting the wetlands and the watershed of Clark Creek? Are you planning to run with 100 year storm projections or will you plan for more intense precipitation events that are predicted with climate change? link

    What are you planning to do about protecting the wetlands and the watershed of Clark Creek? Are you planning to run with 100 year storm projections or will you plan for more intense precipitation events that are predicted with climate change?

    Nicholsonb asked 12 months ago

    Once potential projects have been identified for implementation through the Master Plan an evaluation process will be undertaken to consider the potential impacts associated with implementation of the projects on various aspects of the environment.  This includes the natural, social, cultural, economic and technical environments associated with the study area and would include looking at potential impacts to wetlands. If potential impacts are identified mitigation measures would be identified to minimize the potential impacts.  Projects with significant impacts identified that cannot be minimized through appropriate mitigation measures, would not be recommended for implementation.

    Modeling completed in conjunction with the Master Plan will utilize a range of storm events in designing proposed drainage infrastructure improvements, including future scenarios that include more intense storm events related to climate change.

  • Share How can I submit a plan to Kelly Vader. I would like the email if possible. Thank you on Facebook Share How can I submit a plan to Kelly Vader. I would like the email if possible. Thank you on Twitter Share How can I submit a plan to Kelly Vader. I would like the email if possible. Thank you on Linkedin Email How can I submit a plan to Kelly Vader. I would like the email if possible. Thank you link

    How can I submit a plan to Kelly Vader. I would like the email if possible. Thank you

    Props asked about 1 year ago

    Kelly Vader's email is kvader@bmross.net

  • Share Will this be funded by point Clark residents? Is this for the new development of Paul Buddinger subdivision? If so tax payer should not be paying the bill for a developer to profit. We shou,d not have to pay for any drainage as the township is profitable. on Facebook Share Will this be funded by point Clark residents? Is this for the new development of Paul Buddinger subdivision? If so tax payer should not be paying the bill for a developer to profit. We shou,d not have to pay for any drainage as the township is profitable. on Twitter Share Will this be funded by point Clark residents? Is this for the new development of Paul Buddinger subdivision? If so tax payer should not be paying the bill for a developer to profit. We shou,d not have to pay for any drainage as the township is profitable. on Linkedin Email Will this be funded by point Clark residents? Is this for the new development of Paul Buddinger subdivision? If so tax payer should not be paying the bill for a developer to profit. We shou,d not have to pay for any drainage as the township is profitable. link

    Will this be funded by point Clark residents? Is this for the new development of Paul Buddinger subdivision? If so tax payer should not be paying the bill for a developer to profit. We shou,d not have to pay for any drainage as the township is profitable.

    Theresa asked 12 months ago

    This study is included in the 2023 Capital Budget, which is funded by all ratepayers of Huron-Kinloss and was not initiated as a result of potential development projects.  Our intent is for any future storm sewer projects to also be funded by future capital budgets as approved by Council.

  • Share Are you planning on paving Victoria Road as part of the drainage plan. I hope not. The gravel road has many functions? 1) Absorbs rainwater 2) Keeps traffic at a safe speed 3) Keeps the natural appearance of nature which is quickly disappearing at Point Clark. on Facebook Share Are you planning on paving Victoria Road as part of the drainage plan. I hope not. The gravel road has many functions? 1) Absorbs rainwater 2) Keeps traffic at a safe speed 3) Keeps the natural appearance of nature which is quickly disappearing at Point Clark. on Twitter Share Are you planning on paving Victoria Road as part of the drainage plan. I hope not. The gravel road has many functions? 1) Absorbs rainwater 2) Keeps traffic at a safe speed 3) Keeps the natural appearance of nature which is quickly disappearing at Point Clark. on Linkedin Email Are you planning on paving Victoria Road as part of the drainage plan. I hope not. The gravel road has many functions? 1) Absorbs rainwater 2) Keeps traffic at a safe speed 3) Keeps the natural appearance of nature which is quickly disappearing at Point Clark. link

    Are you planning on paving Victoria Road as part of the drainage plan. I hope not. The gravel road has many functions? 1) Absorbs rainwater 2) Keeps traffic at a safe speed 3) Keeps the natural appearance of nature which is quickly disappearing at Point Clark.

    paallen360 asked 12 months ago

    The decision to pave gravel roads will not be included in the scope study.

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