Bruce Beach Drain

The Township of Huron-Kinloss is investigating drainage issues along Bruce Beach Rd. between Concessions 8 and 10. The Township became aware of flooding along the roadway in the fall of 2018 and has since signed a petition through the Drainage Act to investigate the issue further.

Council appointed Dietrich Engineering Ltd. under Section 4 (1)(c) of the Drainage Act to manage the Bruce Beach Rd. Drainage Project.

Dietrich Engineering Ltd has identified various drainage issues and presented a number of concepts to solve the drainage issues along Bruce Beach Rd. The Have Your Say HK website is being used to collect community feedback about the current drainage issues affecting residents.

Please take some time to familiarize yourself with the project by reading the news article below or by watching the video. We encourage you to ask questions and let us know your concerns by sharing a story.

The Township of Huron-Kinloss is investigating drainage issues along Bruce Beach Rd. between Concessions 8 and 10. The Township became aware of flooding along the roadway in the fall of 2018 and has since signed a petition through the Drainage Act to investigate the issue further.

Council appointed Dietrich Engineering Ltd. under Section 4 (1)(c) of the Drainage Act to manage the Bruce Beach Rd. Drainage Project.

Dietrich Engineering Ltd has identified various drainage issues and presented a number of concepts to solve the drainage issues along Bruce Beach Rd. The Have Your Say HK website is being used to collect community feedback about the current drainage issues affecting residents.

Please take some time to familiarize yourself with the project by reading the news article below or by watching the video. We encourage you to ask questions and let us know your concerns by sharing a story.

If you have any questions about the Bruce Beach Rd. drainage project please post them here. We ask that residents refrain from contacting staff or Dietrich Engineering Ltd. directly as they have been instructed to direct all feedback to the Have Your Say HK website. 

If you prefer your question to be answered privately (not posted on the public Have Your Say HK website) please indicate that in your question. 

Q&A

  • I am very concerned about the potential cost to build and maintain this drain and how these costs will be applied to our property considering the fact that the problem identified seems (to me at least) to be closely linked to the installation of drainage tile on two very large parcels of farm land on the east side of Lake Range Drive. Since the municipality is tracking the costs of the planning, engineering, etc. associated with this project, is it reasonable to ask that the cumulative costs be revealed on say a quarterly basis along with the proposed assessments of these costs to the various landowners deemed by the municipality to be beneficiaries? This way, those proposed to be assessed would have at least some indication of the methodology and impact on their taxes as the costs mount.

    Grubb786 asked 4 months ago

    Drains constructed under the Drainage Act are user pay systems. This means that landowners that benefit from the construction of the drainage system, or own land which contributes runoff to the drainage system will contribute a portion of the costs towards the design, construction and maintenance of the municipal drain.

    Once the final concept is established, a meeting will be held where the Engineer will present a preliminary report (tentative late summer/fall 2019) where a draft assessment schedule will be provided.  A Notice of Meeting will be mailed to all property owners within the watershed. 


  • Why has Dietrich Engineers not added Water Quality to the guiding principles as requested at his presentation? This is principle is important to our community & to the Lake Huron environment since the Maitland Valley Research Study on Gullies showed it is the Phosporous from the soil in the gullies that is picked up by the water that is causing the Algae and pollution on Bruce Beach. Can Water Quality please be added as a Guiding Principle for this project to any future presentation or information ?

    Joan123 asked 6 months ago

    Water quality is a consideration when designing new projects under the Drainage Act.  Two of the concepts presented do include water quality components as part of their integral function. 


  • As a property owner who uses the property only seasonally, my obvious concern is how much the final solution is going to cost and who pays for it.

    Roderick MacDonald asked 6 months ago

    All Landowners within the watershed that will benefit from the proposed drain will contribute a portion of the costs of the project. We are currently conducting field investigations and working out details for a recommended design. Once the field investigations and details for a recommended design are available, costing will be determined.


  • In relation to Concept 5 which would involve installation of a new infiltration gallery along Bruce Beach Road in the road allowance: would this necessitate straightening the road southward from Highland Drive? I understand that the easterly border of the road allowance in that area is VERY close to the road itself. If the road were straightened along that stretch from cottages 140 - 151, it would allow space for this gallery. This is the section where the most significant flooding occurs every spring, flooding down the hill, over the road, and onto private cottage yards. I am not sure just what an infiltration gallery is and whether it requires a drain into the lake at some point. Please explain the difference between a municipal drain, a municipal storm sewer, and an infiltration gallery.

    Louise asked 6 months ago

    Great question, we need a bit more time to provide your requested information.

    At this point we are investigating the Concepts and what would be involved.  Once we have a recommended design we will know more about each Concept and will be able to provide further details.

    Update

    A Municipal Drain is constructed under the Drainage Act, landowners that benefit from the construction of the drainage system, or own land which contributes runoff to the drainage system will contribute a portion of the costs towards the design, construction and maintenance of the municipal drain.

    A Municipal Storm Drain is a system constructed by the Municipality and is a capital project funded by the general tax base.


  • In the NEWS FEED under the heading - Have We Been Down This Road Already - a paragraph reads: "This material (design, cost estimates & assessments) was presented at an information meeting held on September 5, 2009. Subsequent to the meeting, the Council instructed the Director of Public Works to withdraw his name from the petition. The petition became invalid, and the project ended." What was the referenced petition and why did it become invalid?

    davidwest144 asked 6 months ago

    On June 15th, 2009 a resolution was passed by Township of Huron-Kinloss Council to proceed with the Bruce Beach Municipal Drain process; however this process was stopped on February 12th 2010 as there was a lack of interest by the majority of residents for any improvements.  


  • Will the property owners be expected to pay the cost of ditch construction beside the road if this is found to be a viable solution to the flooding issue?

    Brian asked 6 months ago

    Once we have a recommended design we will know more, stay tuned we will update the site when new information becomes available. 

  • If the creation of a Water Detention Area (#4) is seen as a solution who will pay for the work to be done? Since virtually all the water in the gullies is coming from the farm drainage tile systems will they be expected to pay the entire cost?

    Brian asked 6 months ago

    Drains constructed under the Drainage Act are user pay systems. This means that landowners that benefit from the construction of the drainage system, or own land which contributes runoff to the drainage system will contribute a portion of the costs towards the design, construction and maintenance of the municipal drain.


  • If ditches at the side of the road is decided to be a viable solution to the Spring flooding near Highland Dr, who will pay for the work?

    Brian asked 6 months ago

    Once we have a recommended design we will know more about the costing.  


  • If Concept #4 is seen to be a solution for the vast quantities of water running through the gullies into the lake will adjacent property owners have to foot the bill, or will the farm owners where the water originated from be required to pay for the work?

    Brian asked 6 months ago

    Landowners within the watershed that will benefit from the proposed drain will contribute a portion of the costs of the project.  This also means that landowners which do not benefit, but still own property which produces runoff that eventually uses the drainage system will also contribute a portion of the costs of the project.


  • Assuming the soils are suitable for infiltration, what would one expect the cost differential between Concept 1b and Concept 5 to be?

    davidwest144 asked 6 months ago

    Once we have a recommended design we will  know more about the costing differences.  All updates will be provided on this site, please stay tuned.  

  • Have the costs for the various concepts proposed by Dietrich Engineering been made public yet? Why is the public consultation period so short? Most properties along Bruce Beach Rd are seasonal and many people may not be aware of what is proposed by May 4th.

    gillian norton asked 6 months ago

    Costs will be provided once further investigations are completed. All property owners within the watershed have been mailed an information letter on the “Have your Say” project website.  This will allow the public to stay informed wherever they may be 24/7. 


  • In Concept 5, can cottage owners be assured that the flow route of the infiltrating water would not affect cottage basements?

    davidwest144 asked 6 months ago

    Thank-you for your question.  We are currently conducting further investigations on the concepts, we won’t have specific details until further into the project.  Our goal is to find a suitable solution for the drainage problems, not create anything new. 


  • When will costing be available as it relates to specifics of any special levy the municipality intends to put on property owners in the area?

    Grubb786 asked 6 months ago

    Thank-you for your question.  We are currently conducting field investigations and working out details for a recommended design.  Until this is completed we will not have any costing details available.